A Look at the Nikon D80 Reviews - 10.2 megapixel DSLR

ShaolinTiger posted this at 11:27 am on Thursday, January 25, 2007 —

This is the camera I recommend most people to get if they have the budget, an excellent entry into the world of SLR and about 70% of a D200 (feature wise and build quality) for much less money. I think the D80 kit now is around RM4200.

Nikon D80

We covered when the D80 was announced in August last year.

It’s a great camera, enough megapixels for anyone, good features, nice external controls, great image quality and the room to grow with support for plenty of pro quality lenses.

One thing I do recommend though, if you buy this camera don’t take the kit lens (the 18-135mm) as it’s not a great lens. Get the D80 body with the 18-70mm (Around RM650 second hand) lens from the D70s kit or get another lens completely like the 18-200mm VR (if you have the budget of around RM2500) or a third party lens like the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 (RM1550) or the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 (RM1800).

The D40 is ok for real beginners, but people with some good photography experience might find it limiting, also the lack of support for good but cheap lenses like the 50mm f/1.8D is not there.

The reviews are generally excellent, so here’ a summary for you:

Nikon D80 Review (DPReview)

The number of cons, and the fact that there are no serious ones, is a testament to the thought and work that has gone into the D80’s design. It’s one of those cameras which just feels ‘right and sorted’ from the moment you pick it up. Things just get better the more you use the camera, you will begin to discover the usefulness of major features like the customizable automatic ISO and the subtle touches like being able to tap the DELETE button twice to delete an image (sounds insignificant, but in use things like this make the D80 far more usable than other cameras).

Nikon D80 (Nikonians)

After following the speculation in our Nikon D80 Users Group forum at Nikonians I’d say Nikon has delivered on many fronts. It’s clear this new D80 DSLR can not be slotted simply as a straight replacement for either the Nikon D50 or the Nikon D70, but that’s not to say it isn’t. It’s shaping up to be a lot like a Nikon D50 in terms of size, but these comparisons can no longer be simply made.

Nikon D80 review (Photography Review)

Like the D100-200 upgrade before it, this upgrade from the D70 to D80 is a worthwhile step up, both in ability and performance. The jump in pixel count and autofocus ability alone warrants the change, but there are literally dozens of other tweaks as you delve further into the menus. The price also seems to be pitched about right, although market forces will soon see it settle into a slightly lower slot, which is all good news. Highly recommended.


DCRP Review: Nikon D80

The Nikon D80 is a fairly inexpensive digital SLR that packs spectacular performance and excellent (though somewhat soft) image quality into a well-built, solid camera. . For under $1000 you get quite a lot of camera, and it will certainly make people think twice about spending hundreds more on a D200. The D80 was a joy to use, and I’m certainly going to miss it when it goes back to Nikon. In other words, the D80 easily earns my recommendation.

Nikon D80 (Ken Rockwell)

When the D80 came out in mid-2006 I bought one immediately because it gave the same resolution as my D200 in a more portable package. My D80 is as small and light as my D70 with the same sensor as my D200. Whoo hoo!

Nikon D80 review (Camera Labs)

The Nikon D80 is without a doubt a very classy camera. It feels great, handles well, performs superbly and has one of the best viewfinders around. At times when rivals struggled with various lighting conditions, the D80’s metering remained unfazed and quite simply delivered great-looking images every time.

Once again I say if you have the budget, go for it, you won’t regret it.

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15 Comments »

Comment by Dabido (Teflon)

January 25, 2007 @ 8:11 pm


‘if you buy this camera don’t take the kit lens (the 18-135mm) as it’s not a great lens.’

OUCH! [That's all I'll say on that!] :-)

Comment by Pinkfrog

January 25, 2007 @ 10:03 pm


I’d say the kit is one of Nikon’s worst. What were they thinking! Anyway, the D80 is great for starters, mediocre for enthuasiasts and lousy for professionals. The metering on the D80 is Canon-ish compared to the D200 and a host of other complaints…hehe…

Comment by LEONGKO

January 26, 2007 @ 1:52 pm


Any idea where we can get the 18-200 VR lens at that price in KL?

Comment by Albert Ng

January 26, 2007 @ 2:32 pm


Eh, my Canon Powershots always had good, predictable center-weighted metering.

I believe recommendations should take into account the person and his/her intended budget and scope of photography. Fans may justify their camera and nothing else, but hey a wedding photographer has different needs from a candid street shooter.

What if he had trembly hands and a limited budget? (I think you know where that points at.)

Comment by ShaolinTiger

January 26, 2007 @ 3:35 pm


Dabido (Teflon): Nvm dude, it’s still a decent lens if you shove the aperture up a bit.

Pinkfrog: Aye I’ve heard the D80 matrix metering has some weird fits sometimes.

LEONGKO: I’d do a low down on the decent camera shops in KL later. But for a start try Mid Valley - Key Colour, Amcorp Mall - J-One, 1-Utama - Shong Lee and YL Photo - Pudu Plaza.

Albert Ng: I agree totally though, it depends what the person wants and what their requirements are (Street photography you can’t beat a RF). For a wedding photographer? With the price of decent glass on the Alpha range, I’d say definitely not the Alpha..What is it..around RM10,000 for the 70-200mm f/2.8 right?

Comment by Albert Ng

January 26, 2007 @ 5:44 pm


Hmm, you seem to take every chance to make a jibe at the Alpha. (Of course, Alpha owners would be defensive if they knew why they bought one, as they feel it is a underrated, underestimated system.) Despite what both of have personally bought into, let’s be objective here. Pentax doesn’t have a 70-200mm F2.8 but nobody seems to have a bias against them. Olympus is pretty weak too but nobody is boohooing them. Also, everyone who owns a VR/IS lens seems very skeptical about in-body stabilization, but Nikon waited 6 years to come up with VR, and trends may change.

The Tokina and Sigma variants are much cheaper (or old KM versions in Hong Kong). I have recently acquired some glass but I’ll blog about it later.

Comment by ShaolinTiger

January 26, 2007 @ 8:52 pm


Albert Ng: I wouldn’t say I’m taking any jibes at the Alpha, I think it’s a weak product. If you came here supporting the Pentax or the Olympus I’d do the same thing, the fact is I would never recommend Olympus to anyone, I’ve said that on this site before. Trust me I boohoo Olympus plenty. For Pentax I think the K10D is pretty much the best SLR in it’s class now, but the availability of lenses is not great..Nor is the slightly odd way in which it processes Jpegs (RAW output is superb). But I still highly recommend the K10D. The fact is you have an Alpha, whatever I say about it you feel it more because you’ve bought into the system I’m criticising. If you didn’t have one, you’d agree :) You were the one who brought up wedding photography anyway, I wouldn’t recommend Pentax or Olympus or the Alpha to someone doing it professionally..

Trends may change but research has shown in lens stabilising is more consistent, more reliable, gives higher performance results, shows results directly in the viewfinder and is more suitable for panning.

I do own Sigma and Tamron glass, but not Tokina, I’m not a fan of their lenses apart from the 12-14mm f/4..although they make most the elements for everyone.

Comment by Dabido (Teflon)

January 26, 2007 @ 10:47 pm


I’ve taken some nice shots with it already. I was planning on buying more lenses eventually anyway. But, I’m still learning to use the functions. At least it’s easier than the old Film Loaded SLR’s in the fact that you can just point and shoot with it on automatic and don’t have to run around with a light metre in your hand [like we used to have to do 27 years ago]. :-)

Some of the shots I’ve taken have impressed the people at work [very nice clean shots of our mural on our back wall and stuff]. My youngest brother [who studied photography at College] will be running around with it on our Open Day coming up in February, and I’m taking it to Sydney soon.

The best thing is it doesn’t do wierd things like my old point and shoot used to do [where I'd have to crop a photo after I'd taken it, as things ended up being slightly further away or not centred.]

Comment by Albert Ng

January 27, 2007 @ 6:33 am


I don’t have a K10D and like it already. :D

For wedding photography I meant the big two, though any other system can be used with some resourcefulness.

Physical stabilization (on lens, or sensor) is still very YMMV (your results may vary). I always reliably get 3.5 stops when the SSS bar goes between 1 and 2 (which is not much effort, no super breathing/contorted arm techniques), which makes me wonder how some reviews say 2 stops. Whether VR/IS varies between 2-4 stops is not stated. Also, I have found it consistent compared to a Panasonic FZ-5, where its OIS sometimes doesn’t seem to work.

(This is not in defense, but just adding my stats in.)

Haven’t gotten round to pan tests since moving from a camera without mirror blackout, but I love having stabilized bright primes and cheap wides, and use these two more often than my tele. (Which strangely, still gives 3.5 stops at that end…)

Despite what I have, I still ask what they want before any recommendations. All-rounder? Flasher? Exotica collector? Budget? Completely intolerant of noise? Macro?

I have no qualms saying “sure, why not” to the question “should I get a D80?” but if the buyer has strange compulsions to shoot macro, I’d make it my duty to inform of the Olympus E-330 or Sony A100 (being able to roll the aperture while the DOF button is pressed is majorly convenient.)

I bought a Hoya step ring and its packaging said “Made by Tokina”. I am more and more convinced now that for 3rd party lenses, there is only Sigma, and that other multiple-named OEM company. Thus in 3rd party lenses it would be hasty to dismiss a lens by brand; such discretion should be to the individual lenses.

Comment by ShaolinTiger

January 28, 2007 @ 2:40 pm


Dabido (Teflon): Aye, it’s capable enough, especially if you stop it down a bit to f/5.6 or beyond. Best idea to learn what you have first, if you start to feel it has some limitations to what you are trying to achieve, then it’s time to consider new lenses. I’ll be doing a whole series on choosing lenses, focal lengths, apertures, VR/IS and so on. That’s the main power of dSLR, it does totally what you want it to, not whatever it feels like.

Albert Ng: If you had a K10D, I’d have nothing bad to say. Pro grade camera for 3k+ (Weather sealed, omg!). I guess you’d like the more film like jpeg output too. You also have to factor in that you have good technique and most likely with those figures very steady hands, you probably can shoot a stop or two lower than most people without any stabiliser. Aye it all depends what they want to do, not sure about the DoF and rolling being that useful with the instant feedback from chimpin the LCD. Totally agree, that’s why I don’t insist on people buying proprietary lenses, it’s all about each lens and it’s combination of glass, manufacturing and design. I don’t generally look at it by manufacturer.

Comment by Albert Ng

January 29, 2007 @ 1:02 am


I don’t fancy the K10D’s soft unsharp output. Post-processing to the rescue!

While I’d like to proudly take credit for steady hands, I realize I am still very much at mercy of the shutter/focal length rule, as discovered on my film SLR. :(

There’s a lot of skepticism about in-body stabilization, but so is there for third-party lenses. I’m sure that the more you used your third-party lenses, the more you discovered, “Hey, not bad whaaat.”

So yeah my expression is like “hey, it works whattt.” because I’m NOT making major effort to get steady shots. Standard two-hand grip standing pointing forward, and I can still see myself jerking/swimming when aligning an AF point to a line, the SSS reports 1-2 bars at 3.5 stops, and I still get a clear shot. Ironically, not having a stabilized view gives you feedback to stabilize yourself, while I might relax seeing a stabilized view and be less steady while pressing the shutter.

70% the performance for 30% the price. Why not? (Kinda explains why everyone has a 50mm F1.8 LOL.)

Comment by ShaolinTiger

January 29, 2007 @ 12:17 pm


Albert Ng: Yah fortunately RAW files are not effected, it’s just their weird Jpeg processing engine. If you process from RAW using ACR or similar it’s fine. Yah I did a lot of research about lenses, found that people complain about quality control and stuff…but if you ask the old skool photographers they’ll say no such thing as a bad lens…or very very few anyway, mostly is user error (like having camera on ai-servo/af-c mode and blaming the lens for not focusing). But yeah performance/price ratio is important. Go buy a K10D so I can borrow it haha.

Comment by Albert Ng

January 29, 2007 @ 12:54 pm


Er… no. I’ll let you try my SSS whenever that is. Go poison another nocturnal shooter, as the Pentax 50mm F1.4 is the cheapest of all brands. I am trying to get this guy with Pentax lenses to get a K10D though, but he left for Australia already. I’m very happy with my Minolta beercan. :D

That dude also has a FZ30, and his brother wanted to get a FZ30 as well. I told him to get the Fujifilm S9500 (then), because if both of them spotted a squirrel in the kitchen, one of them would be more likely to get a clearer shot (rather than both getting handicapped by the same camera.) Variety is the spice of life!

Bad lenses, bad bokeh, ghosting, flare, distortion, softness and the general ‘character’ of the lens all can be used for artsiness. Perfectly setup, tripod-mounted shots are passe.

In RAW, with the same sensor as the D80 and D200, the A100 is no noisier. It’s not destructive Panasonic noise for sure, and the JPGs are still very PP-friendly.

Comment by KY

January 31, 2007 @ 11:09 am


this is like a forum. hehe

Comment by ShaolinTiger

February 4, 2007 @ 12:37 am


Albert Ng: Yah need to spend some serious time with the SSS and see what its like. Beercan is teh good! Agree with your advice, best to spread amongst some different brands, different strengths/weaknesses. Perfect shots are passe :D Well the sensor in the A100 is almost the same as the D80/D200 at a hardware level so RAW captures should be almost the same.

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